it's actually the theme that they are coming up with and some, like marco rubio, say we actually have to change the policy, not just the way that we're gift wrapping it. >> you know ted cruz and cruz is being raised as one of the new voices, new stars of the republican party. has he always been to the right? has he always been to where he is now? or is he a politician that public pressure and the way public leanings go, he will adjust? >> he is an ivy league-educated politician. i first met him back in 1999 where he was a prominent architect of compassionate conservative and then he saw the tea party taking off. he's very good at reading which way the wind is blowing that he still thinks that there's something to be made by harnessing him to the tea party. at least he believes and at least down in texas he doesn't believe it's over. >> molly, you were down there for the cruz speech. let me raise another speech to you. karl rove, he still doesn't get it. at a speech in kansas this week, he blamed republican losses on moderates and conservatives going after each other. listen to this. >